Hi TajD. I tried it and we did not notice any difference in the water between the C5 pads (on opposite sides of the plastic bottle) and the vortex magnetizer. They both went down so smoothly, effortlessly!
Super cool to know you donāt notice any difference. I think I will try the Analemma device and see if I notice any difference.
@OptimalHealth
Can you discuss the changes youāve seen in your gut since wearing the ices? I purchased the a9 this week for that exact reason and am eager to understand how it plays out! Thank you!
Iāve never had any noticeable gut issues, and Iāve never noticed nor felt much difference when using pemf on my stomach area. maybe the biggest thing noticed was gasā¦
pemf has been useful with aches and painsā¦ stuffy nose from colds where blowing my nose would not help anythingā¦and even blurred vision from overworked eyes.
on other people i have seen it help relieve arthritis pain and severe inflammation from itā¦ even helped with my wifeās frozen shoulder
Thanks for the link! Looks like the MeaWater devices, but much cheaper. What you describe and what I see in the video match my experience with the Apollo device of MeaWater.
In contrast to this kind of devices the treatment of a bottle with ICES coils did not produce a measurable or a taste effect or difference.
For measurements I use the (obscure) device āLife Energy Meterā (LM4) from Heliognosis. However obscure, I obtain measurements (always relative to a reference of similar kind) that seem to make sense. For example fresh bulk RO-water tests always worse. If you let it stay in a glass bottle it will be better. Wine (at least the Demeter quality from Spain I use) is much better that bulk RO by default. If i structure the wine oder the RO-water with a device like yours, the relative reading increases visible.
Best,
Hans
Hans, I am curious how you have used LM4 in your biohacking journey. First I have heard of it.
Hi @TajD. Its a new device for me and with my background in (communication) electronics Iām still highly suspicious, because there are so much things you can do wrong, when you have a plate, put something on it and want to āmeasureā something.
Insofar this device can only measure relative things that are compared to each other in a small time window. Because when you modify the setup of the device, the direction, angle, grounding, position of external plates, time passes by, weather changes, then also the base readout changes. At least things within a given (temporary) setup are 1:1 reproducible. This makes sense in the regard of the āOrgonā concept of Reich as a universal energy anyway. So far, so (un)good.
Still I try systematically to get the āhang of itā as far as it is possible. Maybe its all wasted time and money 
But currently I like to compare some water ārestructuringā efforts regarding their effect and when a devices does not change the reference probe in any wayā¦ thenā¦ there maybe nothing to it, because I have devices that change the readout when processing water with vortexing including the use of magnets.
P.S.: I feel I do sound a little bit like Bob in that regard that when we think that we may know something, we overlook the many more things we do not know, or that we not even know that there is something to know about. 
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a friend recently asked me what magnetic water was, and I thought iād share some of the things I shared with him:
TED TALK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9UC0chfXcg&t=475s&ab_channel=TEDxTalks
summarized by ai:
While the scientific community remains largely skeptical, thereās a growing body of evidence and anecdotal accounts suggesting potential health benefits associated with magnetic water. Hereās a look at some of the proposed advantages, framed in a favorable light but grounded in logic and available evidence:
1. Enhanced Hydration:
- Logic: Proponents suggest that the smaller mineral clusters in magnetic water allow it to penetrate cell membranes more easily, leading to improved hydration at a cellular level.
- Evidence: A 2013 study on rats with induced diabetes showed that magnetized water helped decrease blood glucose levels, possibly due to better hydration and cellular function.
- Anecdotal evidence: Many people who drink magnetic water report feeling more hydrated and experiencing increased energy levels.
2. Improved Digestion:
- Logic: The altered mineral structure may aid in the breakdown of food and nutrient absorption in the digestive system.
- Anecdotal evidence: Some users report improved digestion, reduced bloating, and relief from constipation after switching to magnetic water.
3. Detoxification:
- Logic: Improved hydration and cellular function could contribute to more efficient removal of waste products from the body.
- Anecdotal evidence: Some individuals claim that magnetic water helps them detoxify, leading to clearer skin, improved energy, and a general sense of well-being.
4. Reduced Inflammation:
- Logic: Magnetic fields are known to have anti-inflammatory effects, and some believe this could translate to reduced inflammation in the body when consuming magnetic water.
- Evidence: A 2023 study showed that a topical lotion containing magnetized saline water helped reduce hair loss in men by activating scalp autophagy, a process linked to reducing inflammation.
5. Potential Antioxidant Effects:
- Logic: Some research suggests that magnetic fields can increase the antioxidant properties of water, helping to neutralize harmful free radicals in the body.
- Evidence: More research is needed in this area, but early studies indicate a potential link between magnetic water and increased antioxidant activity.
after sending it to him, his response was that it sounded hokey. ohhhh wellā¦ thatās what happens when mainstream health hears something from ānatural healthā (or from the unconventional)!
that said, Iām sure glad the benefits I get from pemf are very real!
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