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#42

I got my M-1 back today and I started using it for mindfulness meditation tonight, based on some studies. Several of the people who I work with have had medical issues and the stress at work has been high, plus, I have stressful social things to go to and I found myself dreading them because my brain issues have caused me to be disconnected in some ways.

I used to attend workshops with relaxation and meditation and I have also used meditation, mindfulness and prayer as part of Christianity, but I have had a hard time shutting down my brain since I had the brain breakdown a few years ago.

This really helped shut the mental loop off. I had been reading that my ACC (anterior cingulate) might not be sending the calm down message to my prefrontal cortex.

I am trying it out. I was reading about it because someone asked if I had autism and I do not know, but I do get self-conscious and that can lead to social anxiety when I don’t know people.

Tonight is day 1. I positioned the coils on the sides of my prefrontal cortex area and did a TMS session.

The minute I closed my eyes, using this enabled my brain to rest, which hasn’t happened in a while.

I am going to an event with a group of mostly total strangers this weekend, so this will be a social anxiety test.

I have a young relative who is autistic and he hasn’t gone to school in a year and has so much social anxiety that I want to know if it helps me. His mother is planning on putting him on pot, but he is the age where it would damage his already damaged brain. I don’t know if this will be the answer for him, but it was fabulous for “mindfulness” training.

I had my first test of how it worked for mindfulness and for social anxiety today.

At work, I was left alone and had to be the one who dealt with customers coming in and socializing. (It is a family business and I used to be able to do that part of the job, but I haven’t been able to handle it for the past 6 years.) I have had such social anxiety and part of it came from the fact that I should have had even more social anxiety and have not wrecked quite so many of my relationships when my brain mysteriously exploded. Best to let everybody else do that part. And yet, as I have been pondering whether the explosion was a stroke and wanting to say, “Maybe I had whatever Dr. Hyman had, or something.” No matter what I had, avoiding the social problems has helped keep the business in business, but it hasn’t lent to brain plasticity in the social areas.

Plus, I have skipped lots of personal responsibilities, things like I was an executrix of an estate, which made sense when it was given to me as a responsibility, but people who are afraid of talking to insurance companies and banks and lawyers and who will put off the phone calls until the money is given to the State probably shouldn’t be in charge, but the other people who could have been in charge had things like kidney cancer, so there was nobody to throw the hot potato to. I know that I have to do the brain plasticity in these areas again, and the binaural beats, plus the M-1 already helped. Today went swimmingly. I had nice conversations and they were appropriate. I didn’t get so lost in the mental logic that I went on and on and I didn’t avoid looking at the person or any of the other behaviors which come with fear of doing it.

Stimulating the prefrontal cortex and visualizing telling it that the ACC was communicating to calm down and that everything is going to be alright helped. I have no real fear of the event, which I am going to this weekend and I will say that I have had fear of seeing people who I was so close to, so no fear is such a blessing. I only did the process once so far, but it genuinely helped.

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#43

@bettereveryday

Regarding your social anxiety, have you seen this paper?
Intestinal worms eating neuropsychiatric disorders? Apparently so.

You can get the full text via SciHub.

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#44

@Hey I use it in my office with folks with concussion and target the brainstem, which is likely the same area of the neck you might want to target. We use a headband positioned like a sweatband and tuck it into the back. Because the brain can get more sensitive to stimulation after whiplash/concussion, you might want to try something like this, sitting up or reclining for an hour or two, and see how that feels and if you can tolerate more.

Just a thought…

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#45

@DrKaren, what a great idea. I’ll try that with a headband. Thank you

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#46

I may have missed a category specifically on intestinal inflammation, but if not, I suggest it may be helpful to have a category on gut/intestines as it relates to ICES PEMF.

I would be fascinated to learn of others using it on their gut, and if they also use Brain Gauge, how that has affected their scores.

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#47

You could start by posting a question or an observation in an existing category, such as “pain and inflammation” or “other interesting applications.” This is all self-experimental, so you could go ahead and just try it and post your observations. That is what we are all doing.

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#48

HI Bob, I submitted a post upon creating this account with observations of using the M1 on the gut (and had negative reaction at first, then positive reaction), but the forum software said the post had to be reviewed first. Since then I have seen your reply to two latter posts. Perhaps my first post is still in a moderator queue?

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#49

@TajD I’m totally interested in the “negative, then positive” reactions you had. Standing by to see that post! :slight_smile:

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#50

Bob, would you consider selling two deep field coils side by side for folks treating deep glute pain. Essentially one large square deep field coil.

#51

We could but that has less flexibility of use. We can’t paint ourselves into the corner of specially making every variation that everyone asks for (sorry) because it is easy enough for each person to do that for themselves, but the work and inventory of large numbers of special variations of each product would be very destructive for our business operations.

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#52

@DrKaren the moderator just approved the post:

#53

Eric,

How about a “Personal Stories/Introductions” forum?

My reasoning is it might help attract people to actually using the forum, too, if they’re first invited to simply post where they’re coming from and what their situation is, etc. I imagine it would tend to further general discussion as well.

In fact, I think Bob basically asked this, and, I’m sorry Bob, I can’t seem to find the exact post with any particulars you’d like to see in terms of an introduction/personal background, etc.

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#54

Will, this is one thing I hoped we could add. @Eric, do you think we could add a Personal Stories section? Most importantly, we do not just want positive testimonials. We need to hear the whole truth, success stories and failures as well. We need to form a good picture of what works, what does not, and how to improve it as people have increasingly better Ideas and strategies for use.

My personal story was one of the first posts added to this forum. I think people should just feel free to write their stories free-form, saying whatever they think would be most helpful. I included a background of how my back was injured, various things I had tried, the limited effectiveness and other problems of standard care (opioids), and my eventual use and positive results with ICES-PEMF.

Originally, almost a decade ago, I did this for my lower back. Now I am going through more of less the same process for my left hip.

Also, on this same topic, we just finished a formal observational survey study on the use of ICES-PEMF for pain. It was a formal, IRB-approved nursing study administered by a nurse from FAU. She wrote her doctoral dissertation based on this study, and she graduated last week… so our plan is to post her dissertation, full-length and unaltered, on this site, hopefully before Sept 1st, 2019. Basically, she interviewed people who had already used ICES-PEMF, some just recently, others for several years, and asked them to talk in detail about their experience with pain and ICES-PEMF. She interviewed people who volunteered, from the email list of people who have contacted me or who bought one of my ICES devices over the past 7 years or so. I emailed every person on the list, asked them to contact the nurse if they had a story they wanted to share and encouraged them to tell the whole story, good or bad, and then I withdrew to let the study happen without my further involvement.

The reason I mention this is that she did comprehensive interviews with about 50 people who had used ICES-PEMF for their pain. Her dissertation includes many personal stories (with names/identities removed, snippets of the full interviews which were often 90 minutes or longer). The stories are really amazing, and I honestly was humbled by the major positive effect this technology has had on so many lives.

While she was doing the survey (January-June, 2019), I remained totally isolated from the study, so that I could not possibly apply a bias to anything anyone said, or how the resulting data were analyzed. The IRB and her doctoral committee at FAU also applied very strict standards to how the surveys were conducted and how the data were analyzed.

As a result, I did not even see any of the responses until just a few weeks ago. I was very surprised to see that almost everyone had a very positive outcome. This document is a formal doctoral dissertation, so it is a somewhat cumbersome document, but the nurse who wrote the dissertation (Stacey Ravid, RN, PhD) is adding a 1-page introduction with hyper-links to the most useful and interesting sections.

The dissertation will be posted as a PDF for free download on this site.

Also, we are planning more studies for the future, and I will announce those as soon as we start getting them ready so that anyone can participate if they want to, or just follow along to see the results.

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#55

Looking forward to the dissertation! That is very exciting to hear that almost all of the results were positive!

#56

OK, I just posted the Nursing study on ICES-PEMF and Pain:

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#57

ices users over 65 represented up to 14 more willing participants but were rejected from the study by design?

#58

Honestly, I was so well isolated from the study to prevent any possible bias that I do not know the exact numbers or institutional restrictions yet. I will ask Dr. Ravid to elaborate when I interview her (very soon).

#59

For future survey you might send out email query to the 5000 ices purchasers requesting simple email responses to a few simple questions to be used only for anonymous statistical compilations . You may get 1000 or more responses to that which represent a more complete picture of results?

#60

well, it is kind of more complex than that, and some people just do not like to get emails, and this attitude changes from time to time, and in some cases we need to apply more sophisticated tools for surveying to maintain statistical accuracy, so we need a different mechanism. That turns out to be a fairly major project.

#61

I see.
It might be interesting to set up a category here with a few voluntary, ongoing Polls with simple yes/no or multiple-option answer?

One poll question of interest to me:

Do you or not feel some kind of “energetic charge or well being” from using ices that is not necessarily related to specific physical improvements, and may not be felt after every session but has accumulated over time?