From what I hear, the long-term benefits of this type of device are questionable at best, and implanted electrodes often cause trouble and added suffering down the road.
The entire point of doing this kind of stimulation the way I am doing it with ICES-PEMF is to eliminate the need for implanted electrodes by using inductive (as opposed to conductive) coupling. This eliminates the need for contacting electrodes, bypasses skin impedance, and distributes the volume of effective tissue stimulation over much more tissue than a conductive (TENS-like) pulse. I calculate ICES-PEMF is 1,000 to 10,000 times more volumetrically efficient than TENS-like devices. There are many other benefits, which I discuss extensively elsewhere.
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Hi Bob,
Itās hard to find contact info for you. I have your micro-pulse ICES unit and first need to know if you must have skin contact with the coils for the technology to work.
Then, I have other application questions and interest in some of your clinical studies. Is this the only way to contact you?
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Have you spent a few hours going over the micro-pulse.com website and videos? I think not. 99% of your questions are already answered there or here by searching. You apparently lack even rudimentary understanding of pemf. To me you are showing disrespect for the valuable but limited time that Bob has available.
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Wow.
You are obviously a devotee. Thatās great. We all need people to support us.
However, donāt slay me.
Iām just a struggling mom with special needs kids, hoping to learn how to specifically use this device to help them in their situation. They take up most of my time and then Iām too exhausted to spend the āhoursā needed to find the answers you say are on the website.
Also, Iāve watched a couple of Bobās (Richardās?) youtube videos with his friend and he came accross as very humble and reachable. Something I greatly appreciated about him ā¦ I wonder if you speak accurately for him. Is he really that untouchable?
I thought he wanted to work with people who use his unit ā¦ do studies, etc. Maybe heās beyond that now? I hope not. I (my kids) really need his help.
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I donāt speak for Bob. However I think you misunderstand his role and I am trying to help you in that. He is not a clinician or licensed health care professional. If you want that, there are others in the field of pemf who you may want to contact . Dr J who posts in this forum, is s a licensed chiropractor who prescribes ices pemf to his patients and works with their progress. This group is about self responsibility, i.e. learning to take care of oneself and become independent of the mainstream medical circus as much as possible. The studies to which you refer are not clinical studies. They are simply people reporting their home-based results in this forum. Some people refer to this as āself-hackingā which simply means learning how your own body works, learning how technology works, and experimenting with oneself using a simple tool like ices pemf etc.
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You can always reach us at our contact information on our micro-pulse.com website. The email is: mzd@micro-pulse.com We try to respond to every email, but often we get requests for information we simply do not have, hope for cures we cannot offer, and sometimes very unrealistic demands. Those, we cannot answer.
People who are willing to self-experiment with our technology can post their observations on this forum, but I honestly do not know any more than they know about these many and diverse applications of our technology. They use the tools we provide with the understanding of their adult decision and intent to self-experiment when all other options have been exhausted. They know more than I do about their uses and their results. Some seem to have promising outcomes, others not.
However, please keep in mind, our technology is entirely experimental, it is NOT FDA approved for any human application, and I have spent all of my time studying and optimizing the technology only for:
1-- Severe orthopedic injury
2-- Severe, crippling, disabling, untreatable chronic pain
Some people try our technology for other applications, and I hear the full range of reports which range from from āgee, it works!ā to āIt does not helpā, and everything between. Basically, I do not know, and I have no data, on any of these other applications of our technology. I can not give any clinical advice, can not make clinical claims, can offer no assurances of efficacy or safety, nothing of the sort. We get hundreds of fairly desperate requests and pleas for help, when mainstream medicine has no solutions. But, unfortunately and realistically, our specific form of PEMF can not be viewed as a miracle cure-all.
From the information in your posts, I infer that you are searching for a way to help a special needs child, and I can say right now that I have no information of any kind on the effectiveness of our technology for any application that falls into that category. I am not holding anything back: the truth is that unfortunately I have no information or advice to offer you.
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The coils do not need to be in direct contact with the skin to function properly. ICES-PEMF works by induction, not conduction, so direct contact with the skin is not required. But the coils should be placed as closely to the area needed as possible. Thin bandages, etc, have no significant effect.
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The following is an amazing other use clinical study using ices pemf which may be of interest .
Also this topic about synergistic qualities of pemf may be of interest.