From what I hear, the long-term benefits of this type of device are questionable at best, and implanted electrodes often cause trouble and added suffering down the road.
The entire point of doing this kind of stimulation the way I am doing it with ICES-PEMF is to eliminate the need for implanted electrodes by using inductive (as opposed to conductive) coupling. This eliminates the need for contacting electrodes, bypasses skin impedance, and distributes the volume of effective tissue stimulation over much more tissue than a conductive (TENS-like) pulse. I calculate ICES-PEMF is 1,000 to 10,000 times more volumetrically efficient than TENS-like devices. There are many other benefits, which I discuss extensively elsewhere.
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Hi Bob,
Itās hard to find contact info for you. I have your micro-pulse ICES unit and first need to know if you must have skin contact with the coils for the technology to work.
Then, I have other application questions and interest in some of your clinical studies. Is this the only way to contact you?
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Have you spent a few hours going over the micro-pulse.com website and videos? I think not. 99% of your questions are already answered there or here by searching. You apparently lack even rudimentary understanding of pemf. To me you are showing disrespect for the valuable but limited time that Bob has available.
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Wow.
You are obviously a devotee. Thatās great. We all need people to support us.
However, donāt slay me.
Iām just a struggling mom with special needs kids, hoping to learn how to specifically use this device to help them in their situation. They take up most of my time and then Iām too exhausted to spend the āhoursā needed to find the answers you say are on the website.
Also, Iāve watched a couple of Bobās (Richardās?) youtube videos with his friend and he came accross as very humble and reachable. Something I greatly appreciated about him ā¦ I wonder if you speak accurately for him. Is he really that untouchable?
I thought he wanted to work with people who use his unit ā¦ do studies, etc. Maybe heās beyond that now? I hope not. I (my kids) really need his help.
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I donāt speak for Bob. However I think you misunderstand his role and I am trying to help you in that. He is not a clinician or licensed health care professional. If you want that, there are others in the field of pemf who you may want to contact . Dr J who posts in this forum, is s a licensed chiropractor who prescribes ices pemf to his patients and works with their progress. This group is about self responsibility, i.e. learning to take care of oneself and become independent of the mainstream medical circus as much as possible. The studies to which you refer are not clinical studies. They are simply people reporting their home-based results in this forum. Some people refer to this as āself-hackingā which simply means learning how your own body works, learning how technology works, and experimenting with oneself using a simple tool like ices pemf etc.
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You can always reach us at our contact information on our micro-pulse.com website. The email is: mzd@micro-pulse.com We try to respond to every email, but often we get requests for information we simply do not have, hope for cures we cannot offer, and sometimes very unrealistic demands. Those, we cannot answer.
People who are willing to self-experiment with our technology can post their observations on this forum, but I honestly do not know any more than they know about these many and diverse applications of our technology. They use the tools we provide with the understanding of their adult decision and intent to self-experiment when all other options have been exhausted. They know more than I do about their uses and their results. Some seem to have promising outcomes, others not.
However, please keep in mind, our technology is entirely experimental, it is NOT FDA approved for any human application, and I have spent all of my time studying and optimizing the technology only for:
1-- Severe orthopedic injury
2-- Severe, crippling, disabling, untreatable chronic pain
Some people try our technology for other applications, and I hear the full range of reports which range from from āgee, it works!ā to āIt does not helpā, and everything between. Basically, I do not know, and I have no data, on any of these other applications of our technology. I can not give any clinical advice, can not make clinical claims, can offer no assurances of efficacy or safety, nothing of the sort. We get hundreds of fairly desperate requests and pleas for help, when mainstream medicine has no solutions. But, unfortunately and realistically, our specific form of PEMF can not be viewed as a miracle cure-all.
From the information in your posts, I infer that you are searching for a way to help a special needs child, and I can say right now that I have no information of any kind on the effectiveness of our technology for any application that falls into that category. I am not holding anything back: the truth is that unfortunately I have no information or advice to offer you.
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The coils do not need to be in direct contact with the skin to function properly. ICES-PEMF works by induction, not conduction, so direct contact with the skin is not required. But the coils should be placed as closely to the area needed as possible. Thin bandages, etc, have no significant effect.
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The following is an amazing other use clinical study using ices pemf which may be of interest .
Also this topic about synergistic qualities of pemf may be of interest.
I am starting out by trying Hypafix tape:
One 2"x2" piece of tape directly to the skin, then the coil, followed by a 2"x4" or 2"x5" piece of Hypafix tape over the coil, which is pressed down on the edges and in the center of the coil to maximize contact with the first piece of tape.
The tape placed directly on the skin is a marker for the exact location for placing the coil, and also allows the 2nd piece of tape placed over the coil to be reused/ adjusted.
I was able to sleep well with this setup. I have also taped the M1 to myself with a similar 2-layer Hypafix arrangement.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CDP1I6
My thoughts after <24 hours with an M1. 
Perhaps this will be helpful to someone.
When I first designed these systems, that is exactly how I held the coils in place. I was using medical tape made by 3M. Could be re-used a few times and was not irritating.
That was many years (decades)ago, and I donāt recall the exact name of the tape but I am sure it has changed by now. Just google: medical tape, non-irritating, reusable.
Just reporting my experienceā¦
I am not sure if the problem I am having is with the tape or the coils/ signal, or a combination of the two, but after 4 days of use (35 hours, mostly overnight), I developed skin irritation while using stacked coils (M1, Omni8, intensity 9).
The irritation was directly under the square of tape that was stuck to my skin, but in addition to that, there was actually greater irritation where the tape-wrapped āhandleā of the coils extended over my skin, past the edge of the square of tape. (Iām calling the place where the gray coil widens and attaches to the black wire the āhandle.ā)
The irritation from the taped āhandleā area (which was never taped to my skin; only the non-sticky side of the tape was in contact with my skin) is the part that has taken the longest to heal.
I stopped using the M1 on 9/7, and 4 days later there is still a tiny āpitā in the skin (1mm?), looks like skin healing from a wound, which I guess it is.
I have not previously had any allergies or sensitivities to any adhesives or to this tape. Perhaps I left the tape on my skin too long, but the area of worst irritation was not in contact with adhesive at all.
I just noticed that I stacked the coils flat sides together/ bumpy sides facing out, in case that is relevant.
On another part of my body, I used the same tape but with single coils. I did not experience any skin irritation. Maybe it wasnāt long enough (8.5 hours over 2 days).
There has not been any pain at all.
Iām going to try again with a different arrangement to see if that helps.