That is exactly correct.
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But what if the device is an M1 ? should it not be sandwiched as above since that would also apply the bumpy side to the skin? If magnetic field is reversing, then what difference does it make which side is next to skin? thanks
Either both smooth sides toward skin, or both bumpy sides toward skin. Both smooth is easier to remember, so do that. They alternate as precisely timed opposite magnets, so when one is N-bumpy side, the other is S-bumpy side, for example.
The alignment needs to be as I have described it. If you understand this or just believe me, then you are fine. But I can’t explain more by text, so if you don’t get it yet, you’ll need to settle in and watch a lot of my YouTube videos.
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This is important new information. It means one can sports wrap the coils in same side orientation, either stacked or side by side, and then use that as an applicator sandwiched between hands, body parts, or people to potentially double the uselfulness of a single set of coils. A method of enhanced hands on healing or massage may be enabled using the this coil applicator attached to the palm or sole.
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I think that is correct.
However, I am not saying that doing so would necessarily give you “magic hands”. Over the years, several people have proposed this concept to me, thinking that they might be able to use the device in the palm of their hands and project healing energy through space to people. One person thought it would energize them enough to do distant healing, like hundreds or thousands of miles away.
I am skeptical about that kind of stuff, but if you are holding ICES-PEMF coils and simultaneously touching people (I assume you have their permission), then, yes, they would get whatever benefit they would get from the ICES-PEMF coils plus whatever benefit they might get from your method of therapeutic touch or manipulation. In addition, there might be synergistic effects.
This aspect of the use of PEMF is WAY outside my areas of expertise, so anything I say in this regard is entirely speculative.
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Hi, first time posting 
I’ve been using an ace bandage during the evening. (At home, while awake)
It’s reusable, but has two metal clips to keep it on. I try to orient the bandage so that the clips are away from the coils (off to the side, when I’m applying coils to lower back). It’s far from perfect, but is easy and works well enough for a few hours at home.
For overnight, I usually apply coils to my right shoulder. I came up with the following arrangement, which sorta works!
I have a T-shirt that I modified with Kamsnaps (I’ll try to add a link below). They are plastic snap buttons that you can add to garments. I chose plastic because I was worried about affecting the field if I used too much metal (but I’m not really knowledgeable about this).
I also used some medical tape (I think the brand was durapore) to keep the coils in side by side, then sewed a pouch for them from a rag. I’ll try to include a link to photos of the setup. Kamsnaps added to this allow me to snap the pouch (with coils) to the right shoulder on the back of my modified t shirt,
I made a very rough pouch with only rags and kamsnaps (too lazy to sew, but this was a mistake, it frays badly in the wash!) that allows me to wear the M1 on my chest while I sleep. I’m a side sleeper, never roll onto my stomach, so this works for me.
So here’s a link to the photos.
three images of wearing M1
The three photos are of:
The back and front of the t-shirt with the device and coils attached.
The back of the t-shirt with the coil pouch unsnapped.
I used the extra rags because on a loose weave like a t shirt the buttons might pull loose. Kamsnaps suggested using “interfacing” which I only later learned it stuff you can buy for the purpose of adding strength and stiffness to fabrics. I’m planning the next generation, now…
I got the kamsnaps here:
kamsnaps on amazon
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excellent, thanks. This is precisely the sort of thing I do.
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I recently learned of a similar device being implanted in a person that was not getting good results when using a device externally. This person had back surgery and was on high dosages of morphine and oxycodone. After 3 months, this person said they are no longer on morphine and have reduced the amount of oxy by 60%. Have you heard of this kind of implant? I believe this person was referring to a TENS device.
From what I hear, the long-term benefits of this type of device are questionable at best, and implanted electrodes often cause trouble and added suffering down the road.
The entire point of doing this kind of stimulation the way I am doing it with ICES-PEMF is to eliminate the need for implanted electrodes by using inductive (as opposed to conductive) coupling. This eliminates the need for contacting electrodes, bypasses skin impedance, and distributes the volume of effective tissue stimulation over much more tissue than a conductive (TENS-like) pulse. I calculate ICES-PEMF is 1,000 to 10,000 times more volumetrically efficient than TENS-like devices. There are many other benefits, which I discuss extensively elsewhere.
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Hi Bob,
It’s hard to find contact info for you. I have your micro-pulse ICES unit and first need to know if you must have skin contact with the coils for the technology to work.
Then, I have other application questions and interest in some of your clinical studies. Is this the only way to contact you?
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Have you spent a few hours going over the micro-pulse.com website and videos? I think not. 99% of your questions are already answered there or here by searching. You apparently lack even rudimentary understanding of pemf. To me you are showing disrespect for the valuable but limited time that Bob has available.
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Wow.
You are obviously a devotee. That’s great. We all need people to support us.
However, don’t slay me.
I’m just a struggling mom with special needs kids, hoping to learn how to specifically use this device to help them in their situation. They take up most of my time and then I’m too exhausted to spend the “hours” needed to find the answers you say are on the website.
Also, I’ve watched a couple of Bob’s (Richard’s?) youtube videos with his friend and he came accross as very humble and reachable. Something I greatly appreciated about him … I wonder if you speak accurately for him. Is he really that untouchable?
I thought he wanted to work with people who use his unit … do studies, etc. Maybe he’s beyond that now? I hope not. I (my kids) really need his help.
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I don’t speak for Bob. However I think you misunderstand his role and I am trying to help you in that. He is not a clinician or licensed health care professional. If you want that, there are others in the field of pemf who you may want to contact . Dr J who posts in this forum, is s a licensed chiropractor who prescribes ices pemf to his patients and works with their progress. This group is about self responsibility, i.e. learning to take care of oneself and become independent of the mainstream medical circus as much as possible. The studies to which you refer are not clinical studies. They are simply people reporting their home-based results in this forum. Some people refer to this as ‘self-hacking’ which simply means learning how your own body works, learning how technology works, and experimenting with oneself using a simple tool like ices pemf etc.
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You can always reach us at our contact information on our micro-pulse.com website. The email is: mzd@micro-pulse.com We try to respond to every email, but often we get requests for information we simply do not have, hope for cures we cannot offer, and sometimes very unrealistic demands. Those, we cannot answer.
People who are willing to self-experiment with our technology can post their observations on this forum, but I honestly do not know any more than they know about these many and diverse applications of our technology. They use the tools we provide with the understanding of their adult decision and intent to self-experiment when all other options have been exhausted. They know more than I do about their uses and their results. Some seem to have promising outcomes, others not.
However, please keep in mind, our technology is entirely experimental, it is NOT FDA approved for any human application, and I have spent all of my time studying and optimizing the technology only for:
1-- Severe orthopedic injury
2-- Severe, crippling, disabling, untreatable chronic pain
Some people try our technology for other applications, and I hear the full range of reports which range from from “gee, it works!” to “It does not help”, and everything between. Basically, I do not know, and I have no data, on any of these other applications of our technology. I can not give any clinical advice, can not make clinical claims, can offer no assurances of efficacy or safety, nothing of the sort. We get hundreds of fairly desperate requests and pleas for help, when mainstream medicine has no solutions. But, unfortunately and realistically, our specific form of PEMF can not be viewed as a miracle cure-all.
From the information in your posts, I infer that you are searching for a way to help a special needs child, and I can say right now that I have no information of any kind on the effectiveness of our technology for any application that falls into that category. I am not holding anything back: the truth is that unfortunately I have no information or advice to offer you.
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The coils do not need to be in direct contact with the skin to function properly. ICES-PEMF works by induction, not conduction, so direct contact with the skin is not required. But the coils should be placed as closely to the area needed as possible. Thin bandages, etc, have no significant effect.
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The following is an amazing other use clinical study using ices pemf which may be of interest .
Also this topic about synergistic qualities of pemf may be of interest.
I am starting out by trying Hypafix tape:
One 2"x2" piece of tape directly to the skin, then the coil, followed by a 2"x4" or 2"x5" piece of Hypafix tape over the coil, which is pressed down on the edges and in the center of the coil to maximize contact with the first piece of tape.
The tape placed directly on the skin is a marker for the exact location for placing the coil, and also allows the 2nd piece of tape placed over the coil to be reused/ adjusted.
I was able to sleep well with this setup. I have also taped the M1 to myself with a similar 2-layer Hypafix arrangement.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CDP1I6
My thoughts after <24 hours with an M1. 
Perhaps this will be helpful to someone.
When I first designed these systems, that is exactly how I held the coils in place. I was using medical tape made by 3M. Could be re-used a few times and was not irritating.
That was many years (decades)ago, and I don’t recall the exact name of the tape but I am sure it has changed by now. Just google: medical tape, non-irritating, reusable.
Just reporting my experience…
I am not sure if the problem I am having is with the tape or the coils/ signal, or a combination of the two, but after 4 days of use (35 hours, mostly overnight), I developed skin irritation while using stacked coils (M1, Omni8, intensity 9).
The irritation was directly under the square of tape that was stuck to my skin, but in addition to that, there was actually greater irritation where the tape-wrapped “handle” of the coils extended over my skin, past the edge of the square of tape. (I’m calling the place where the gray coil widens and attaches to the black wire the “handle.”)
The irritation from the taped “handle” area (which was never taped to my skin; only the non-sticky side of the tape was in contact with my skin) is the part that has taken the longest to heal.
I stopped using the M1 on 9/7, and 4 days later there is still a tiny “pit” in the skin (1mm?), looks like skin healing from a wound, which I guess it is.
I have not previously had any allergies or sensitivities to any adhesives or to this tape. Perhaps I left the tape on my skin too long, but the area of worst irritation was not in contact with adhesive at all.
I just noticed that I stacked the coils flat sides together/ bumpy sides facing out, in case that is relevant.
On another part of my body, I used the same tape but with single coils. I did not experience any skin irritation. Maybe it wasn’t long enough (8.5 hours over 2 days).
There has not been any pain at all.
I’m going to try again with a different arrangement to see if that helps.