@Bob Would you please point me to your explanation of the different M1 protocols? I can’t seem to find it. I am confused on wave form, frequency, etc as it relates to what the M1 can do. For example, I read your old post first so I have been experimenting with 10 pps power 15 double stack coils but I don’t know how that compares to your 4 pps comment later in this same thread.
I have not initiated a coordinated, major, collaborative research effort on the topic of structured water, which is what it would take to make any real progress in an academic setting. A few casual conversations might be suggestive, but would not answer any questions. It would not move the needle.
Plus, I will go on record to say that, in my opinion, this is an excellent example of the type of research and observation that really needs to be done: specifically, we need a massive amount of observations of biological effects with carefully recorded experimental conditions. The fact is, you can do all of the exclusion zone and x-ray crystallographic measurements you want to… and it would tell you… nothing much about whether of not it is really having biological effects.
So I would say, for the time being, for a while, keep track of experimental conditions and make careful measurements and observations. Before you can even really begin to study something like this, you need a solid and large body of observations, so that you can begin to see patterns, so you can begin to hypothesize mechanisms, so you can begin to formulate working hypotheses, which then allows you to make predictive and measurable statements, allowing you to verify and refine, or exclude, sets of observations, which allows you to further refine the hypotheses and predictions, and when you have multiple hypotheses, you can then formulate tests to exclude, or support by strong inference, each hypothesis.
This is actually how all productive biological research is actually done. The other approaches are basically methods used by academics to pump federal dollars.
So what I am doing, and my advice to everyone else who is reading this, is to keep testing, observing, recording, report back here, look for patterns, and if you see something then we can have several people test it independently, collect the results, and publish them in our journal (JoSaM.org).
The best place to find this type of information on the M1 is on my YouTube video:
If you are asking this in the context of getting sufficient information to formulate scientific hypotheses, it is not really something, one thing, I could point you to. For that level of detail, you would need to make a specific experimental setup, then get the bench testing instruments to actually measure how your specific settings/battery state/ coil placement/ other conditions result in a specific electro-magnetic set of conditions. I have to make these measurements every time I set up an experiment. There is no textbook way to do this. This is something I do all the time, but it is something most PEMF manufacturers can’t actually do.
The best thing for people experimenting with this to do is to record your experimental settings and the geometry and conditions of the experiment you are doing, in as much detail as you can. Then, make careful observations on the effects. Take pictures. Write everything down.
If you see dramatic or interesting biological effects, then I can replicate your setup in my lab, make the necessary measurements, and try to replicate the results.
Hint: you are not likely to see dramatic changes for small changes in intensity or pulse rate, and all ICES-PEMF devices have fixed waveform parameters that you can not adjust.
what exactly does this mean? gurgling sounds and gas?
funny…i find it challenging to talk about gut and bm changes without getting a bit… explicit haha…
yes, i have continued taking my ices water daily… every morning 16oz min and have noticed so far my usual 4p brownouts are gone…
i still get my food coma after eating, but they aren’t as severe… maybe too early to say if it helps with my food coma tho.
i HAVE had headaches when i first started, but they were minor and only 3 different instances. as for how i prep my water…i may be overdoing it compared to what Bob has shared and what you have mentioned haha… i have my setting in medium, but have done high or X Hi and have done 32oz water “cooking” for over 30 mins could across from each other or stacked or both (one after the other). 
there is no disputing that it detoxes my body. it is VERY evident in my 
… DAILY. my younger son as well but my teen tells me nothing. i should look to confirm that tho …
I was pretty conservative with ICES water… never really pushed my limits on this. My focus for the last few years has been severe chronic pain, less focus on the other applications, so I tend to push the limits less on these, sorry.
@Bob, the biological effects are very real for our family, including our dog. He acted 5 years younger yesterday (one day after having 9 ounces of ICES PEMF structured water), very chipper, and up and about, following us around. What is nice about using the M1 to structure the water is that each family member can benefit from it each day at max capacity (all water as structured water) during the day.
Gurgling, gas, loose stools, possibly diarrhea (combined with burning sensation). Interestingly enough, I had the same effects for the proceeding 24 hours when I had the M1 on my gut for 30 minutes power 9 Omni 8 when I tried that last year. We know from tests that we are seeking to pare back heavy growth of E. Coli and yeast. It seems M1 on abdomen and M1 ICES PEMF structured water help us with this effort.
The effects are clear to me too. And several people have told me similar experiences. I think the best way to study this is to collect and replicate individual experiments. But no matter what we find collectively, I absolutely agree that there is something real going on, and it confers real benefits.
I just received my M1 last week and I’m already very optimistic with the future based on my current usage and perceived effects.
This post is about my experiment with drinking a glass of M1 charged tap water. I live near the Canadian Rockies so our water is considered hard. Right after seeing this post, I used the M1 on my water for probably close to an hour.
Taste and mouth feel was different. I couldn’t pin it to be honest. I’m going to relate the perceived effects in a scale of 10. 10 being extremely strong and 1 being extemely mild. This was a 7. Perceived effects:
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it felt like I took some melatonin
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it felt like I like I was using a CES/TACS 0.5-4HZ (my sleep mode)
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felt a little lightheaded but I didn’t feel like tipping over while walking on my treadmill for 40 minutes at 2.1 mph
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the effect lasted for more than 4 hours and it gradually weakened
Overall, it felt a little weird but nothing that freaked me out. I’m going to try it again while following the 2 minute suggestion from Bob. BTW, this was on stock settings.
hi @OptimalHealth: I’m awaiting my M1, and I’m gonna strart with structured water experiment yet I’m curious about your reseults with ices oatmeal?
i have only applied to water after i found a more convenient way of producing ices water. that said, i intend to use it for smoothies than oatmeal for convenience sake.
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Hi, I wanted to try this with the M1. I wasn’t clear from your first post on the coil placement for the 4 oz glass of water for two minutes. Would you mind clarifying that for me please?
Thank you!
it is very simple actually:
Just put the coils on opposite sides of the glass or water bottle, bumpy sides out.
Hold in place with rubber bands or tape.
that’s it! 
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i have been pulsing my ro tank for the last few months, so anyone drinking water (unfortunately not enough in this family 
) is getting ices water.
I’ve stopped counting how long, how strong as long as the pulse is strong enough (my guess) to get to the water. i have a steel ro tank and just double coil and tape them to the tank. i let the device run all day at L or M but crank it up to H when meal time comes and i know we’ll be using it soon. undoubtedly, i know the water is treated just by the taste alone!
so grateful to have this invention from dr bob… the portability and efficiency has been greatly appreciated and used to the entire family’s benefit!
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That probably is the best strategy you can have, since the effects of “ICES water” are best determined by trying the water, by trial and error. It is working when you decide, for your needs and purposes, that it is working.
Bob
– Recent Experimental Results using ICES to promote Seed Germination —
When correctly applied, ICES really does have a very significant and repeatable effect on seed germination rate. The dosage is critical because there is a hormesis effect where dosages that are too small or too large can reduce the germination rate, but correct doses (in the mid range) really increase the germination rate. This is like the “Goldilocks Effect”: too little or too much is bad, but in the middle its just right. I think the hormesis effect may explain a lot about why the entire field of PEMF is so confusing, specifically because you never see any scientific reports of careful scientific dosing or dose-response curves. Clearly, it turns out that this needs to be done with some care, or you can easily get negative results for PEMF.
I just published this scientific paper:
https://www.josam.org/josam/article/view/58
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got this one some 10yrs(?) back 
how time flies… https://www.haguewater.com/water-filters/reverse-osmosis-filters/h3500/
added a mineral cartridge so the water remineralizes ro water.
I really enjoyed reading this! Maybe plants will open up the box a bit, so we can see what is really going on and how effects are produced.