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Treating for Depression with Benefit on Arthritis

This is really excellent. I am very happy to hear about your good results, but also sad to hear about your friend’s situation.

Thank you to all of you for your well wishes. For as long as she has on life, I will hold on to hope and fight for her because that is all I know how to do. I have prayed for her well-being and have asked her to consider PEMF but instead, she chose to listen to advice of close-minded oncologists. With such an aggressive cancer, and so few options left, what is there to lose at this stage? I would not wish this cruel and horrible suffering that she must undergo on anyone.

This is great news! I’ve had my M1 for over a year but never knew how to use it for a specific condition. In the meantime, I started taking systemic enzymes (Dr. Wong’s Zymessence are stronger than the others so fewer capsules). I take 8 twice a day which is expensive. That said, since March 3 my pain has reduced by 85% or more and my joints are visibly smaller. Boots that hurt my feet last year have wiggle room this year. So, how best to leverage my M1? 45 minutes to an hour on what settings??? Thanks in advance for your reply!!

As I said, treating arthritis was not my original intention. I applied the coils side by side on the right frontal cortex with the intention to treat depression. Initial protocols were A9 and then after three days switched to Omni 8, another three days to scTMS 10pps 30 minutes and then to scTMS 10pps 60 minutes. When I decided to run the M1 overnight, I first did scTMS 10pps 30 minutes and then went to sleep with Omni 8 running for about 5 hours before I became irritated with the sound drumming into my skull, then would remove the whole thing and fall right back to sleep again. It was when I ran it overnight that I found the arthritis would return the following morning, but no more than an hour.

I suspect while I applied the coils to my head, PEMF is systemically working on the entire body, which is why the arthritis on my fingers benefitted. Also doing it several hours was maybe a bit of a jump for my body to take immediately. Maybe too much detox hence the return of the arthritis? Or maybe it has to get worse before getting better? In any case I needed to test it out, since I have a fairly high pain tolerance (my nerve damage have put me through something far greater!) I figured why not.

Previous to using the PEMF, I took boron supplements because it gave me temporary relief from arthritic symptoms as long as I took it at least three times daily, but it was cumulative for at least a year before I saw improvement. However, even though I now find PEMF more effective, I will nevertheless continue with the boron at least once a day because it prevents cancer and a myriad of other health issues. For more information read Walter Last’s The Borax Conspiracy: http://22ufz71k02hq49efa638g8cf-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/borax.pdf.

I don’t take drugs or chemicals if I can help it. I rely on alternative health whenever I can, (and PEMF now added to my arsenal), but I’m also a strong advocate of preventive health, which is where borax and my tai chi qigong come into play. My 81-year-old mother researches herbal medicine as a favourite past-time and as long as it’s cheap, safe to use and effective, we share with all our friends and family. All the best to you!

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God speaks through such kind people like you – thank you, thank you so so much for the link to the story! The story is inspiring and I will forward it to my friend immediately.

I am very sorry to hear about your friend and will keep them in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing all of your experiences.

15g per day of Modified Citrus Pectin (such as Pectasol-C) seems to be a common go to for those with cancer. There are multiple research studies showing due to its inhibitory effect on the galectin-3 signaling molecule, it can prevent metastasis of cancer. It isn’t a cancer cure, but seems to be one more tool in the toolbelt.

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i have had great results with people using ices directly on affected area… within 30 mins we could tell inflammation was shrinking… after an hour the swollen knuckles looked almost normal and hand was mostly ok. this was using an a9 on “M” setting stacked and also good results sandwiched

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I agree with Optimal for localized swelling. The strategy that I think is best is to apply the coils directly to the area with swelling, use a setting of 9 or 10 (or higher if it is an acute injury), then try different coil placement strategies, for an hour or two each. You should find a coil placement that suddenly seems to visibly reduce swelling in an hour or so. Stick with that coil placement, wrap it up if necessary, and let it run for a few hours. You might do this for a few days in a row, even after the swelling seems to have subsided. That almost always keeps swelling in check.

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Just an update on the arthritis:

I gave the M1 to my friend who has Parkinson and I bought a second one for myself, so I’ve been three days without my daily M1 dose. First day was fine but into the second day the arthritic inflammation has started to return. Don’t know if this means the effects are cumulative so I need to “build up” on treatment before it completely heals and I would no longer need to treat it? Or that I would need to continue this treatment indefinitely like I did with boron for as long as I need to keep the arthritis away? Definitely hope it’s the former. For that matter, I’m wondering if this applies to other ailments as well.

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I’d personally encourage continuing certain supplements that have been known to help you like the boron but at a maintenance dose. i can’t say for boron as i haven’t read up on dosage, but items like magnesium or collagen are things that we grow deficient a we age. in fact magnesium is a mineral that we seem to be under dosing from diet alone: https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/study-half-of-all-americans-are-magnesium-deficient there are other citations if you Google

great summary on magnesium:
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/

vitamin d is another item most are deficient in that would help to supplement as well

ices/pemf is a great adjunct to many therapies and supplements. I’d encourage people to do what helps their ailments in addition to using pemf

to answer your question about lasting effects… people like Bob have been able to reverse the need for hip replacement, but it took a consistent schedule of use to reverse that need for hip replacement surgery.

people have reversed knee replacement…

my wife has been having lower back issues…i suspect degenerative in nature as her parents deal with that… whether environmental or genetic disposition, who knows. at any rate, we have been using ices daily for the last week with real help in avoiding any debilitating pain that she had before ices therapy. we hope in time to resolve this completely. in the meantime we will take measures to care and supplement for her condition, and monitor it (have an MRI scheduled).

Ali that said, i know magnesium and boron (and d3) are great supplements to maintain bone and joint health!

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Yes, I do know about the magnesium. Since our family is on a predominantly vegetarian keto diet with an emphasis on whole foods, magnesium should not be an issue – my mother is 81 years old and in recent tests, show no signs of pre-osteoporosis though she suffers from scoliosis that was aggravated from a work related injury from her early nurse-in-training years.

Regarding your answer to my question about the lasting effects of ices/pemf: very encouraging to know! I am still waiting for the second M1 I have ordered and very eager to try out for other health issues I have! If only I had known about ICES much earlier, I would have saved myself a lot of suffering, not to mention time, effort and money in investing in other less useful health gadgets!

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ices tech doesn’t get a lot of coverage mainly bc it’s not advertised in the same way as the multilevel marketing (mlm) cos do nor does it have people making large amounts of money thru resale. if you look at the options that many resellers of pemf carry, they don’t carry ices… the profit margin isn’t worth it compared to the overpriced machines with their pseudoscience marketing and sales tactics by the industry.

fortunately, in time the authentic results of ices will make it’s way to the top as people experience and share their stories.

at any rate, had you never searched beyond conventional healthcare, you would’ve never even known that pemf was an option. the masses rely blindly on their doctors who are conditioned and quick to prescribe meds.

that said, cbd also seems to be an alternative to meds for chronic pain. i wonder how effective that is for people’s conditions. hmmm… something i should investigate just out of curiosity. i have never heard of cbd helping reverse degenerative issues…:thinking:

don’t be too hard on yourself… you’re easily ahead of the pack in self care for your pain and “shituation”… we all pay tuition for unconventional (and effective) solutions.

glad you’re here to heal with us👍🏽

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Yes, I’ve looked at CBD (my brother actually suggested that for me), but because of my martial arts background, my mentor actually warned me against cannabis and most prescription drugs because they can affect the “chi” (aka qi, intrinsic energy, life energy, prana) development — suffice to say it’s something we work at developing for healing and self-defence in qigong.

In any case, I use DMSO (Dimethylsulfoxide), a byproduct of paper making. It’s cheap and fast acting with no negative side effects. I smear a few drops topically, and it will promote healing and stop pain throughout the body. I downloaded this online, The book explains extensively its history, how it’s used and its purpose: https://irp-cdn.multiscreensite.com/73bf25b2/files/uploaded/Dmso%20Nature’s%20Healer%20-%20Morton%20Walker.pdf.

Just be sure to keep the skin clean before applying on topically, as it can transfer chemicals, drugs and contaminants straight to the organs.

60 Minutes also did a show on athletes and Dr Stanley Jacob who advocates DMSO for his patients; that was how I first heard about it. You can google it online to watch on Youtube.

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ah ok dmso… haven’t used that in awhile and didn’t know that about cbd and chi… so much to learn out there…

When my pain got so intense, I actually considered CBD, but I know once I take it, I sacrifice almost 40 years of Olympic style training in tai chi qigong. That would be a bitter pill to swallow. I believe my mentor because I personally know of at least three who have been affected. These days, it’s rare anyone who hasn’t experimented with recreational drugs or taken any prescriptive drugs long term for that matter. For me, I’m a bit unusual because I started training when I was very young and so, I’ve never followed the trend or fallen into that peer pressure…

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Thanks for sharing your experience Serenity. Every time I hear of arthritic symptoms, I consider sharing my story as well. I probably have mentioned it somewhere on this forum. Its about the healing potential of Vitamin D. In Dr. M. F. Holick’s book The Vitamin D Solution, he considers it the cure for most common health problems-he is passionate about it. I had probably mild symptoms compared to others but enough that i couldn’t walk without a limp. When I had my lab work done i realized the Vitamin D was low AGAIN. After increasing the dosage the pain went away in my wrist and arm immediately It took a little longer for my knee to “heal”. I take 3-4,000 a day and it really keeps the pain at bay. Not saying it works for everybody and I’m happy to have my M1 on hand as a backup. So glad to hear it works for depression which is such a common disorder. As for your friend, I totally believe in the power of prayer to mitigate suffering, (at the very least), I’ll pray for her also and I will put her on my church’s prayer list.

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Bless you, Eliza, for your kind thoughts. I’ve come close to death as a young child and am not afraid of it, but even though my friend is also Christian, I don’t think her faith is as strong. She has suffered much and I pray that she will find comfort and peace for whatever comes. But the good Lord has wrought many miracles in my life and I consider myself very blessed that He hears my prayers, so I thank you for joining us.

As for Vitamin D, yes, we make sure to take our vitamin D every day 3-4000 like you. It keeps the blues away, helps with hypertension and vision, in addition to many other benefits. Recent studies even suggest that vitamin D can help covid patients recover much faster.

The city I live in is very damp and that is how my arthritis started, but up until I started on the M1, I was careful to take the mineral boron at least three times a day, especially when the rainy season comes around. I intend to continue taking it daily even after my arthritis is gone, as it has other benefits too — in addition to preventing arthritis, it builds bone density, promotes brain health and prevents kidney stones and even cancer.

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I am dealing with uveal melanoma and have started on the CareOncology Protocol, which your friend might consider. It is conventional medicine used in an unconventional way. Good luck to you and to your friend.

Thank you Cajun, I don’t know much about protocol for pancreatic cancer, but we’ve exhausted all avenues. Your information sounds promising. Can you tell me how long you’ve been on it and how it’s working for you?

Serenity, I have no evidence of metastasis, which is the main goal. (Uveal melanoma has limited treatment options after metastasis.) I have tolerated the medications well (it has over 7 months since I started COC Protocol). The research looks promising and the relative risks are low. It also can be used with conventional treatments (like the radiation which I had for the primary tumor successfully in January and an oral chemotherapy which I am doing for one year). So far I’m using my M1 for lower back pain and tendonitis, but may expand my use.