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Diabetes, Ozempic(semaglutide) PEMF

Interesting newly announced application for PEMF

https://www.drugs.com/news/ozempic-plus-intestinal-zap-therapy-may-eliminate-need-insulin-type-2-diabetics-121825.html?hash2=9de354978edf59a5eda2a91e234867b8

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That Is interesting! Having been recently diagnosed (in March) with Type 2, I have been attempting to target my pancrease at night, with any luck given their colocation, I have been getting both. :crossed_fingers:

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Type 2 is completely reversable through diet. Have you looked at that? you likely have insulin resistance developed in body that are likely much easier to fix via diet change. Strict keto diet (no or very low glycemic index food + healthy high fat) + intermittent fasting (1-2 meals are day) protocol did wonder on few people I know incl. myself.

@sushi no such thing as a strict diet with my work schedule. I have only been in the US (home) for 5 days since July. Living out of hotels all over Europe - France, England, Switzerland, and Sunday heading to Scotland. Spent Jan-Mar in Holland & England. May in St. Louis & June in Houston. Won’t get home again 'til 21 Nov. Fasting is easy enough though due to the long hours. Ive done keto off & on over the years & it certaily does a lot of good.

As far as type 2 being “completely” reversible that is debatable. From what ive read it really seems to depends on if you still have any viable beta cells in the islets of the pancreas. Even then some will be able to control their type 2 with diet, not actually reverse it.

I’m not saying it can’t be reversed, just that it is complex and situational. It isn’t going to be true for everyone. That said, I am hopeful for a personal recovery. Time will tell.

P.S. how is your daughter’s elbow?

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Hi @gunpit :wave: – I agree that “completely” was a little too strong of a word - probably I should’ve added “in majority of cases” (yes, I am pretty convinced myself in this regards). Do you know if you actually have Pancreas abnormality? As I understand more and more about Type 2 as well as other so-called modern diseases, I am led to believe issues are largely rooted in the modern lifestyle including food+diet. I also have some experience seeing people reversing them, incl. myself. You may be interested in Dr Berg on youtube (if not already) - has lots of useful info and some things you can arm yourself to combat type 2.

It sounds like you have a very hectic lifestyle which I could relate – The reason why I am mentioning this is because PEMF/ICES maybe a too small of a gun to make a dent when issues are largely stemming from modern diet or related lifestyles. I do think that with a careful planning and some disciplines/techniques, a strict diet or lifestyle changes can be made even though it may not be easy nor convenient, and it could make a huge difference in dealing with the condition.

Thanks for asking about my DD’s elbow. It’s getting better and there’s some positive update although it’s little early to be definitive. I’ll update the other thread now for more info!

Good luck with your endeavor on Type 2!

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@gunplt, not related directly to ICES/PEMF, I used to travel frequently (mostly to Asia from the US) and found that fasting while flying and resetting my circadian rhythm (start on the new time zone on the plane, water only, especially sparkling water, touch the earth/grounding after arriving, get sun exposure after landing, don’t look at blue light using glasses like TrueDark glasses at airport and on plane), prioritizing sleep and exercise all helped me get into the new time zone quicker and manage my blood sugar. Time restricted eating and low-carb also helped me. I have been borderline pre-diabetic a few times, but have been able to avoid medication so far with lifestyle factors. Good luck juggling everything and staying healthy.

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@sushi @CajunBiohacker thanks for the input. A lot of good advice in my opinion!

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Agree!

Strict avoidance of fats of all kinds. Fats in total should be max. 20% of calories, or even less. Reduces also harmful Omega-6’es like linolic acid.

Even Dr. Mercola does it now this way and tells that his high-fat diet recommendation was a mistake and is not something one can to long term without getting health problems. Issue is the “Randle cycle”. Low-Fat also reduced cholesterol levels easily below 150, even if hypothyroid.

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There’s a company called Ceria Therapeutics where I live. I think PEMF would be an excellent way to enhance delivery of ceria-microRNA to diabetic foot ulcers. I suppose it is kind of a Bob question as to what PEMF would do to phosphate containing RNA stuck to a metal oxide like ceria. PEMF has been used to treat foot ulcers. The mechanisms seem to be similar. https://pemfbio.com/2024/09/18/pemf-and-diabetic-foot-ulcers/ I’m not familiar enough with ICES to know if it’d be better than other modalities.

I have lived with hypoglycemia for 30 years and although I am immaculate in my diet, supplements, exercise I would not say that I am cured. If I (accidentally)take in too much sugar even now I have a reaction. I dont think that the idea we are cured allows us to forget the harm of too much sugar.

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yes, I think that is correct - “cured” makes you feel like the problem is over and done, much like you got over the flu. This type of disease (e.g. Type 2 Diabetes) has a lot to do with lifestyles being the root cause, and just because your health markers no longer indicate you have them doesn’t mean it won’t come back as soon as you reverse your lifestyle back. It’s a lifelong commitment and people need to evolve their lifestyle as they move through the different phase of life.

Additionally, at least for men, tracking/maintaining healthy testosterone levels is an important factor in maintaining / restoring insulin sensitivity in addition to exercise, diet and sleep.

Do you have a tip on how to improve testo-levels without TRT and when additional pregnenolone, progesterone and the like do not help?

For secondary hypogonadism, the current best practice is Enclomiphene/Pregnenolone combination to restore the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis/feedback loop which can get out of whack with mycotoxins or other major insults. Typically 6.25mg to 25mg is prescribed.

AI gave me a decent summary:

Enclomiphene is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) primarily used to stimulate endogenous testosterone production in men, particularly those with secondary hypogonadism. It works by blocking estrogen receptors in the hypothalamus, leading to an increase in luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) production. This, in turn, stimulates the testes to produce more testosterone.

Enclomiphene is one of the isomers of clomiphene (commonly known as Clomid), but it’s generally considered to have a more favorable profile for stimulating testosterone without some of the estrogenic side effects associated with clomiphene’s other isomer, zuclomiphene.

Here are a few key points about Enclomiphene:

  1. Mechanism of Action : By blocking estrogen’s negative feedback on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis, enclomiphene increases LH and FSH, leading to higher testosterone levels.
  2. Uses : It’s used to treat male infertility and low testosterone, particularly for those seeking to avoid exogenous testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) due to concerns about fertility.
  3. Benefits : Increases testosterone levels while maintaining or enhancing sperm production, which is often compromised with traditional TRT. It’s generally well-tolerated and avoids the suppression of the hypothalamic-pituitary axis seen with direct testosterone supplementation.
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Hi @TajD

thanks for the extended answer, but I would never take any synthetic hormone-derivates that block selective receptors (or do other stiff, we do not know). That is the same misguided approach the hormonal contraception or “Cortisone” takes. The results are always bad, especially long-term.

I suggest using the ICES PEMF and red light for this purpose then. Have you experimented and measured levels pre/ post? In addition, Tongkat Ali and adaptogenic herbs are often used (such as Numedica Functional Male in the US - a pharmacist friend formulated it), as well as DIIM and Calcium D Glucarate to reduce estrogen conversion/ recycling.

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