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Questioning new PEMF Foot Chargers efficacy?

General Health and Self-Hacking
#1

There is a lot of buzz about these combined Teraherz/PEMF devices. The original ones sold for thousands, and this knock-off product is $400. Facebook groups are blowing up and health care affiliates are promoting them without truly knowing if the PEMF in them are putting out beneficial PEMF fields.

One link is below, but I wonder what would be a useful line of questioning to determine if their product is in line with what we know to be effective. Most of their health claims are based on other similar science and testimonials which I don’t trust. I would like a flow-chart line of questioning to help myself and others learn if these company’s are all hype or legit.

Can anyone here help me with this?
I know to ask about specs, but I don’t know what a legitimate & truly useful response should be.

Thanks~

#2

Sure they do THz with 5V and 0,5 amps USB-Power! Put heating element inside and you emit IR and FIR - that is 1000-15000 nm and surly “THz” :slight_smile: Then switch that stuff on and off 100 times a second and you have your “pulse”.

By the way: I soon put my dinner on my futuristic Jetson’s-like THz-Cooking device :mage:

#3

Thank you, but how do we question their science to prove to non-science-minds that their methods do not induce healing effects, when the testimonial evidence is so convincing? It’s all about who we trust, rather than truly understanding why the statement you provide is valid. I need to understand why theirs is crap, and Bob’s is good in simple terms that can be expoused in their own “scientific” jargon.
I would like to be able to make simple statements as to why these devices are not working in the way they and testimonials claim they do.

#4

How you want to “prove” anything to people who do not want to understand the prove in all aspects, even those which are omitted?

Those people have to believe or trust, follow their leader and some evolve above that and do not need someone or something to “follow”. These are stages of development and some do get stuck.

#5

Typically I like to provide a 1 or 2 line statements in the comment thread to tip off others whom are about to be scammed. But I don’t know of a statement that would be convincing because I don’t know how to evaluate what specs make a PEMF actually therapeutic.
I know Bob Dennis goes into long explanations that I can not replicate. Surely her or someone have a direct response that would be understood by the masses, no?

#6

Jill, I think the maximum is, to raise doubt.

  • Gaus/Tesla is for permanent magnets, Tesla per second (T/s) is for dynamic PEMF. ICES states T/s - no one else does! Why? Maybe because no one else understands PEMF?
  • Much does not help (necessary) much
  • Small is beautiful
  • If it runs on such a tiny battery it certainly can do no harm
  • Bob Dennis is the guy which worked at the original NASA PEMF projects!
  • Bob invests in tech, not in marketing or design
  • ICES is no multilevel-marketing

Most important for me now: ICES makes huge pulses of BG3 and has a high Bovis unit rating - but no one will understand that.

@Bob: You may use that for your new marketing campaign :rofl:

Best,
Hans

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#7

Thanks @hcf !

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#8

Thanks! Is “dynamic PEMF” a real term? Is it fair to say that these cheap units do not provide the same energy field because they are on a different signal station (G/T vs. T/S?) So, is it also fair to say that they are on two different wave lengths, so we can not compare the two? When these other companies are quoting PEMF Science research, do we need to know if they are referencing Magnet PEMF vs. “Dynamic Pemf?” I’m sorry, but I a don’t understand PEMF, I guess either.

#9

Jill, problem is, other companies write things that do not make sense. I’m a EE guy (electrical engineer) and I can see that Bob is right(er) and others missing a lot(er) of things. What does this tell us? :face_with_monocle:

Dynamic PEMF? Whats with “AI-Controlled Quantum-PEMF”? Everyone can generate b******t words. This complicates it all, because non-experts think that the salesmen are honest :angel:

As I wrote: If you really want to understand - then you have to dig into it. It took for me lots of years to grasp parts of PEMF. :man_mechanic:

And I finally understood PEMF even more, when I put this all aside and went even deeper into it - leaving the limits of the 4D world. But that’s a story for another thread :wink:

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#10

Bob is the foremost authority on Pemf. He worked for Nasa and developed it. Most companies tout power but the key according to Bob from what I understand is waveform. Most pemf is somewhat beneficial eveni using ancient technology but best is right here

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