Hello,
has anyone had the following experience?
My wife and I have been using P9 directly without external coils (intensity 8, protocol alternating Omni 8 and C5-B5) for about half a year for orthopaedic complaints - my wife has osteoarthritis of the lumbar spine, I have osteoarthritis of the hip.
Both of us have recently experienced a worsening of the condition, i.e. pain in the surrounding muscles as well. Now that we have paused ICES for 2 days, the additional pain is practically gone and the overall condition seems to be better than before ICES.
So we are thinking of using ICES intermittently.
I’d appreciate to read about your exprerience.
Yes, actually. This issue has come up before, and I experience it myself sometimes.
Just my opinion, not medical advice or proven fact:
What I think is happening is that the device results in a reduction of swelling (demonstrated by third-party testing in a GLP Laboratory). Often an injured joint is also stabilized somewhat by the swelling. Unfortunately this results in a sequence of events where the swelling is first reduced (this can happen in a few hours), as a result the joint becomes somewhat less mechanically stable sort of like deflating a basketball it becomes less stiff (leading to more joint pain), and the surrounding joint tissues (ligaments, muscles, and joint capsules) eventually adjust to the reduced swelling, but this takes a few days as the surrounding tissues tighten up to stabilize the joint with less swelling.
So the initial result is more pain due to less joint stability, but the tissue is also recovering.
The way I get the most out of this process is to use ICES-PEMF less frequently at first, keep the swelling down, let the joint stabilizing tissues readjust to the reduced swelling, then continue using ICES-PEMF and allow time for overall tissue recovery.
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Thanks a lot. Your explanation makes sense to me.
We’ll try to continue this way and observe the development!
excellent, thanks. The trick here is striking the right balance. This will take some experimentation and observation:
1- Use ICES-PEMF to reduce swelling. The effects linger sometimes for a day or two. But you will initially need to deal with more joint pain.
2- Treat the joint gently. Do not stress it because it will be less stable and therefore more prone to additional injury.
3- Initially allow about 2 or 3 days for the tissues surrounding the joint to adjust to the lower swelling by tightening up before applying ICES-PEMF again to reduce the swelling again. But do not delay too long before using ICES-PEMF again to prevent the return of the swelling. The objective here is to get your joint to tighten up naturally with less swelling, but also to avoid additional injury while the joint is less stable. Eventually after the joint tightens up, ICES-PEMF should not “cause” pain by causing less joint stability.
Try to strike the right balance to allow your joint to adjust to the reduced swelling, and as it does, you can use ICES-PEMF more frequently, eventually every day, without joint pain from instability.
Then, please report back here and share your observations and the strategy that works best for you. Or if it did not work, report that also, so we can develop a different strategy.
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@Bob, thank you for the proposed strategy, we’ll follow up on it, adjust as needed and I’ll report after some time how it worked.
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