Hi,
Do you guys think buying a PEMF mat will help with my Mortons Neuroma? I seem to have nerve inflammation and irritation. I got surgery to get my inflamed nerve removed, but its been a year and my pain levels are still a chronic 8 out of 10. Thanks <3
Hi. I have a Mortons Neuroma (2 actually) in my left foot from breaking it twice. To be honest , I have tried PEMF, red light therapy, and PEMF and red light therapy together and nothing much has touched it.
I wear wide toed shoes, have orthotics and have an awesome foot/calf massager that I got from Renpho that gets the tingling in my toes almost down to nothing before bed. The massager (with heat) makes a huge difference and I actually have trouble falling asleep if I forget to use it before bedtime.
I am interested to see what other people have to say about their experiences with using PEMF and Morton’s Neuroma. I often wondered if I did not try it long enough, or if I put the position of the coils wrong. I wonder if @Bob has any experience or has heard of anything to do with use for Morton’s Neuroma. Thank you in advance!
Hi @Kayrem,
Unfortunately I do not have any experience or information specific to Morton’s Neuroma. But I can say that my Renpho impact massager is awesome too, and it really helps me in combination with ICES-PEMF when I need to deal with old and difficult foot injuries (what we used to call “micro-fractures” back in the dark ages).
Here is what I do:
I use the massager on my feet, pretty thoroughly before bed. Then, if I am dealing with a foot injury that does not seem to heal, I also use it as described below (for example, I accidentally kicked an open door jam in my bathroom at about 3:00AM few months ago… it was so severe that I thought that was going to be a mobility-ending event).
It just got worse for a few days until I started this plan:
I used my Renpho impact massager as much as I could tolerate the pain.
Then I used the roll-on DMSO that I mentioned in an earlier post, which for me really does help reduce swelling and bone/joint pain. This one from Amazon:
Then, using a model C5 with a pad, I just put the pad on the floor where I normally put my feet while I am working at my main desk most of the day. I simply keep my foot on the pad as the C5 runs, powered from a USB charging port. The setting I use is Omni-8 on intensity level 10.
So, basically, I use the impact massager to help break up any tough wound tissues a bit (very painful), then I apply DMSO, then I rest my foot on an active ICES-PEMF pad for many hours throughout the day while I work and I more or less forget about it. It did not help much for the first week or so, but thereafter I had an excellent, pain-free, full recovery.
I hope that gives you some helpful Ideas.
Thanks for the thoughtful and detailed answer @Bob. I will definitely give it another go with the A9 (or M1 I guess- both have Omni 8). I will definitely look into the DMSO. I live in Canada but I did find a supplier of the brand you use in Canada. And I will try the PEMF in concert with the massager and for a longer trial period, like a month or so. I will report back on any results that I get from my “clinical trial of one”.
Great, and keep in mind: often we find that lower PEMF intensity with longer duration use yields much better results than short bursts of high intensity. Based on my experiments, I think that PEMF dose depends mostly on the total number of correctly shaped pulses delivered at approximately the correct range of pulse rates, but not so much on peak magnetic field intensity. [REF: https://www.josam.org/josam/article/view/58 ]
Are you suggesting to keep the ICES PEMF device attached to the injured area (Mortons Neuroma) for as long as possible each day at a low intensity? Which coil attached to the C1 Device would you recommend? Thanks Bon
In my personal opinion based on my personal experience (not medical advice): Yes, I think longer periods with lower intensity really seems to me to have the best effects. I would probably use either one 2x2 coil array, or just one pair of stacked coils, determine which seems to work best for you, then use that.
Basically, everything related to this technology requires common sense, trial by self experiment, observation, adjustment, repeat.
Thank you Bob. You’re a legend.
I will note that the other thing that I found helpful and used before the awesome massager was the micro current setting on my Intensity Select Combo. I actually bought the TENs machine to do tVNS (which I did!) but I found an scientific paper somewhere that used micro current on Morton’s neuroma. My calf muscle used to get so tight from walking “funny” on the affected foot. So I put the micro-current on my affected foot pad and midway up my calf for an hour before bedtime. It was very weird because I felt nothing for the first 40 mins and then it was like a “weird” feeling where my calf muscle and foot “let go”. I had almost no tingling/pain in my toes after that. But to be honest I was staying up VERY late to do it and the 15 mins-1/2 hour on the foot/calf massager while I watch TV seems to be helpful.
I am going to try Bobs suggestion because I want to find a more durable solution versus just trying every day to get the pain/tingling away so I can sleep.
Would you also use DMSO on lower back pain, paired with PEMF? I herniated two discs during sports. I have never heard of DMSO but will certainly give it a try. Thanks @Bob
Yes.
That is exactly what I did for myself 90 seconds ago.