Flux Health Forum

Intensity & Coils of C5

PEMF Basics
#1

Hello, I have been researching PEMF therapy and units and am interested in the C5. Just a couple of questions:

  • What is the gauss output at the various intensity levels?
  • Is that intensity divided up equally across the ports?
    To clarify I will use an example… Lets just say that at intensity 15 it produces 200 gauss. Is that then divided evenly across the 4 ports hence each port would have 50 gauss?

Lastly, I just want to confirm that I can set the intensity independent of the protocol I select ( Standard, Schumann, TMS, Constant or Cortex)
Thank you for taking my questions!
Luci

#2

Hi Luci

I forget the Gauss rating and I don’t believe I have seen a breakdown of what intensity level delivers what Gauss. I want to say 450 is the rating, but don’t hold me to that. @Bob can probably shed some light on your questions though. If I understand correctly, each output on the C5 is an independently amplified circuit, and thus no, what ever the intensity is set to, it isn’t distrubuted between the 4 outputs. However since you cannot set each output independently, they (the 4 outputs) will all be more or less equal. The point being having 1 set of coils plugged in vs. all 4 plugged in will not change the intensity. Hopefully Bob or other more knowledgable contributors here will correct me if I am mistaken. Yes the intensity setting is independent from the protocol.

Colin

#3

On our products that allow selection of pulse protocol (M1, P9, C5, B5) you can set the protocol independently from the intensity (15 levels of intensity). On the model A9, the protocol can not be selected, it is set to one protocol. You can adjust the intensity to 4 different levels.

About Gauss:

Well… This is based on real science and engineering. The answers are not simple. If someone gives you a simple satisfying answer, ask them where they got their engineering or physics degree. Safe bet: they are a marketer with no background in science or engineering.

Gauss rating is the way marketers try to sell their PEMF units. Gauss is not really the way to evaluate anything about the beneficial effects of PEMF. if you want “Gauss”, you can get any amount you want from rare-earth magnets that cost less than $5.00:

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/category/neodymium-magnets

The use of a term such as “Gauss” seems legit and sciency, but what does it really mean? What are you getting for your money (usually thousands of dollars)? Think of it this way: If you buy a dozen apples, how can you be sure you got your money’s worth? You can count the apples. Do they look like good apples, and did you get 12 of them?

Great. Now, say someone sells you 2000 Gauss. Fine. How do you know? Do you have any Idea what a Gauss is? How do you count and measure it?

My scientific opinion, based on more than a quarter century of research into PEMF: selling or comparing PEMF by “Gauss” is a marketing scam.

So, this kind of leaves you with two choices:

If you are not interested in the science and engineering involved, that’s fine, just ask people on this forum what they think about ICES-PEMF technology. If it works, that’s really all you need to know. If they suggest some other different product to you that would be better for your needs, that’s great too.

If you want to understand the basic science and engineering involved, it is complex and incompletely understood. I discuss it at length on this forum. Just search for the terms “dB/dt”, slew rate, biophysics or biophysical.

I hope that helps. I know it is not the simple answer you wanted, but the truth about PEMF is that only part of it is understood, the math and physics are horrendously complex, and much of it remains unknown, specifically the biophysical mechanisms.

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#4

Thank you Colin and Bob for your detailed replies.
I have a question please-
The screen where I would select intensity (0-15) reflects the results of the equation I = dB/dt * t? Is there a particular value then associated with the intensity number?

And to make sure I understood Colin’s response… whatever I set the intensity at, for example I set it to 10, that 10 intensity will be the same for each port? Is that correct?
Thank you !

#5

Hi Luci. “Gaus” is not a relevant measure for PEMF. Its “Gaus per second” or “Tesla per Second”. Its about the rate of change! Only permanent magnet have constant “Gauss”.

ICES has up to 180T/s which you can regulate. This is immense! You get a coil tester which may not “blink” with other PEMF devices, because they “average” their Power but do not put it to peak-effectiveness as ICES. Also all 4 ports have the same level. Level is independent of protocol.

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#6

Thank you much for your reply. I appreciate the info
Luci