Hi,
I am curious about whether earthing mats (like ones for pillows and bed) are detrimental in any way while using PEMF while your sleeping.
Thanks an take care.
briefly: itâs best not to put the grounding mat between the ICES-PEMF coils and your skin. Place the coils on the skin or bandage, then the grounding mat should not interfere.
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I have the same set-up. I put them under my pillow - the Omni-8 setting puts me to sleep and i sleep much better than without it. Alpha setting does not help me sleep. Everyone is different so âresults may varyâ 
Definitely a lot of individual variability when it comes to sleep and PEMF.
Johnny, just wondering if you could please clarify and detail your techniqueâŚyou actually put the coils on the bottom side of your pillow, or on your bed, and the PEMF energy traverses through the width of the pillow with noticeable strength? Which device are you using (A9, M1), which power setting (1-15), and which coil configuration (stacked pair, side-by-side pair). Also, if you have the hexagon coil tester, Iâd be curious to know if it can read any PEMF energy going through the width of your pillow? BTW, since sleep is often associated with Theta and Delta waves, have you tried those settings? Have your tried or considered attaching the coils directly to your head, via a headband, bandage wrap, etc? Thanks!
Anthony Propellerhead, Love the aviator! My pillow is one of these floppy thin down pillows. When itâs all even and spread out itâs probably only two and half inches thick and by the time the weight of my head is on it probably only an inch thick. When I lay on my side I can hear the clicking of the PEMF but when I lay on my back and my ears arenât on the pillow I canât hear it. Iâm using a C5 unit on power level seven to eight on a scale of 1 to 10. I arrange the four 4 x 4 coils in a square about half an inch apart from each other directly on the bed and then I lay my pillow on top of that . They tend to stay put under the pillow. I have not tested the strength of the coils on top of my pillow -however I have tested coils by lifting a hexagonal tester up away from the coils and at the distance from the coils that my pillow is from my head (~1 inch) the tester does not flash -thatâs at power level 7 ½ or so. Iâm using the Omni eight program. I purchased my C5 unit back in 2018 - I donât know if the Omni eight program is the same as on newer units. I have not used Theta and Delta waves but I have tried Alpha waves twice and if anything it seem to keep me awake.
As far as attaching the coils to my head thatâs going to bring us into a much longer and more detailed story. Putting the coils on my head was the first thing I did. Iâm in the process of writing a detailed description of how and why I tried this but for the purpose of this discussion - I have put the PEM F coils on my head using a headband like what youâd use for keeping your ears warm. That actually puts me to sleep faster and more intensely than under my pillow. It doesnât seem to matter whether theyâre at the base of my head or in the center of the back of my head and then the other two are typically covering from my cheek to the top of my eyebrows partly over my eyes
I would really like to get a better understanding of the dispersion and strength of the wave through the air and different materials. My understanding is that itâs a cone shape and so I donât typically put the coils directly on my body if the pain is close to the surface such as my hands. I typically wrap my hand and something to give me about an inch of thickness of some kind of fabric like a T-shirt and then secure the coils on that with an ace bandage. Funny as it sounds my first use of the coils on my head came from how I was using it on my hand. I eventually came up with the idea to use a square box. I put one coil on each flat side of the box and wrapped the box with an ace bandage to keep the coils on. That way I could treat my entire hand with all for coils at a distance that I believe would allow the coils to spread out enough to increase the treatment area but not too far away that the wave would be weak. I still wrapped my hand in a T-shirt. The advantage of this was that I didnât have to constantly be putting the coils on an off my hand which causes fatigue to the cables - I could just wrap my hand in a T-shirt and stuff it in the box. If I felt like it wasnât working I couldâve always turned the power up to push the wave further out. When I got the idea to try this on my head I simply put the box on my head and that worked for me until I decided there was a better way to do this. Somewhere I have a photo of that box of my head, but I donât know if Iâm willing to share with the public. ď It seems to me that if the PEMF can penetrate your bodyâs tissue a couple of inches it should be able to penetrate a T-shirt or a down pillow much further. I look at it like a microwave - in that the denser the material the weaker the wave will become as it passes through it. So if Iâm going to treat something thatâs a half-inch or 2 inches into my body like my spine, I just put the coils directly on my body.
Hoping Bob can address the dispersion questions.
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As a follow-up - turns out my pillow is only about 1/2" thick when I lay on it.