hi @choban55, I was going to recommend this on your thread when you had mentioned using pemf for your foot to keep the infection under control. I didn’t mention bc this natural, simple, effective treatment isn’t commonly recommended in mainstream health. I have mentioned this before in the past in other circles and it was met with a lot of skepticism and resistance. Since what you were doing was working for you, I left it alone.
Anyway, this idea was recommended to me by my immunologist doctor (of all people, a mainstream healthcare doctor)! To his credit, he loves research and is always participating in clinical trials, so he’s more open to ideas/things that actually help/work than what the pharma industry recommends via taking some drug.
Knowing the common cause of skin/foot infection was helpful to confirm effectiveness of using bleach (aka: chlorine - same as used in swimming pools).
https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2008/0701/p71.html states that the common bacteria that cause foot infection are:
“staph” bacteria - Staphylococcus aureus
“strep” bacteria - beta-hemolytic streptococci
and for cellulitis (skin infection or foot) in severe cases:
“mrsa” bacteria - methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus
cut to the chase, in my own experience, i have reduced signs and risk of infection compared to never soaking in bleach bath (dilution). I have used this successfully for my dad’s foot as he has reduced feeling in his foot due to a stroke some 20+ years ago, so his foot has been prone to toe fungus if not regularly checked or protected.
here’s a guideline you can follow:
https://dermnetnz.org/topics/bleach-baths-in-patients-with-skin-infections in a nutshell 1/2 cup to a a bathtub… how does that translate to actual 1 gallon tub to soak your foot? You can work the numbers backwards for now… I can follow up on this later when I have more time.
i have found 2 conflicting studies on effectiveness of bleach baths:
2008 study:
stating:
Blockquote
After five minutes in bleach at 2.5 mcL/mL, a high degree of killing was demonstrated for all 10
CA-MRSA isolates, resulting in a greater than three-log reduction in surviving organisms
compared with the control strain incubated in municipal tap water alone, according to the
researchers.
source: https://www.djj.state.fl.us/content/download/22313/file/hypochlorite-solutions-helpful-managing-ca-mrsa.pdf
and then a 2019 study:
summarized: In a 15min solution of 0.005% bleach solution at 37C (98.6F) showed no significant impact on staph colony. Even exposures to 0%-0.01% dilution for above parameters did not yield any change. A minimum of 0.03% dilution is needed to have impact - a concentration that is toxic to human cells (skin)
source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7183041/
while I do not know what bacteria/pathogens I’ve killed using a bleach bath soak, I do know that it has helped me avoid cellulitis after using as needed.
@Bob these seem like similar studies… i understand time exposure can affect results and both are within a 15min timeframe easily… any thoughts on these conflicting studies?
that said, it certainly has worked for me and my dad!
On a separate note and better (safer alternative), you might want to consider working w/HOCL … doing a hypochlorous soak seems to be even more effective. I’m gonna check this out for myself in the near future. gotta go for now… but reaching for that household bleach to dilute in water to soak in a foot tub is a quick experiment you can do now… just figure out the proper dilution!
post more later!